Would you guys buy.....

[mikehazard]

a 1969 Plymouth Fury III? it's got a 3 speed automatic, a 318, and it's 4 doors (for those of you who don't know). The guy's asking $900..worth it or not? I don't know much about older cars. It runs good though and all it needs is body work on the left rear panel.

[Schema]

Meh, those are the grandma lookin one's of that model, but for $1k I'd jump on it if I had the extra $, time, and willingness to invest more time and $ in restoring it. If you're not sure about it then I wouldn't bother. Wait for something you've always wanted. For me it was a 280z, and when I found one I was ready for it, didn't have to make space or ditch another project car.

[2fast4u]

Old plymouths are a ton of trouble to find parts for (compared to chevys and fords) and the 4 doors arent worth much of anything. www.manheimgold.com is a site that keeps track of auction values... most you could get for the car realistically is 4500 bucks, and chances are thats after 10-15k in restoration unless the guy has an incredible car and is unaware. Rear quarter panels are expensive to do (assuming you can find them) figure on 1500 bucks for the labor in replacing it, and that assumes the panels behind it are good.

My first car was a similar investment, although it was a 1972 cutlass 2 door sport coupe (442 knockoff owned by by grandfather since new) which needed no serious metal work, had the rare 4bbl, dual exhaust 350/TH350 with every factory option and sold for 8k after about 14k in work.



From my experience it is better to find the more rare, more desireable project car that costs more... ie if you love the fury, then wait for a convertible that costs 5k to come along and spend 5k on getting it driveable, instead of dumping 10k into a 900 dollar car. However if you are looking to part it out, or for a good demo derby car go right ahead but the price tells me there isnt much to this car. Seriously consider what it is going to cost you and what you want to do with the car before you jump into it... convenience is not a reason to buy an old car... trust me.

[Cossey]

It's got three speeds!

[myfakeevo]

its ok if you plan on dropping a 302 in it and making it a fast grocery getter.

[2fast4u]

Originally Posted by myfakeevo

its ok if you plan on dropping a 302 in it and making it a fast grocery getter.

302 is a ford... if youre gonna build a motor for it keep it plymouth and build a 360 or 383 for about the same price. The 318 is a truck and dump truck motor, and even though they are all related, the 360 has a ton of potential, the 318 has less - so.

But if you want a 302, I have a 302 longblock downstate that you can buy off me for dirt cheap. Came out of a running 90 Mustang GT that ate a dipstick and kept running. Remember, only in 90 and 91 it came with forged pistons... a desireable year for a 302 buildup.

[PJB]

All '86-'92 5.0 Mustangs had forged pistons. Only in '93-'95 the 5.0 had hypereutetic pistons.

[Audiochef]

plymouth furys are not worth a thing even a 2 door sports roof with a 318 fully restored is worth about 4-8 thousand. ive built one for a customer before. my advice is to skip out on this and save your 900 bucks. if your into mopars though and dont have a lot of money look into a satilite or whatever they are called...or a duster..you can get them fairly cheep. and they are a hell of a lot smaller and worthy of a 360 or 383 motor.

[myfakeevo]

im sorry, i really had a horrible brain fart, i swear i read ford falcon. dont ask me why.

[2fast4u]

Originally Posted by PJB

All '86-'92 5.0 Mustangs had forged pistons. Only in '93-'95 the 5.0 had hypereutetic pistons.

then why is the 90-91 motor special... forged crank or rods??? I know there is something different but i cant remember what... i havent had a mustang since 2000......

[Khyron]

this thread makes me laugh. The more I read stuff like this.... the more I know I'm on the wrong board here.

I PMed you Mikehazzard.

[mikecentola]

Originally Posted by Khyron

this thread makes me laugh. The more I read stuff like this.... the more I know I'm on the wrong board here.

I PMed you Mikehazzard.

Why don't you help educate some of us??

[Khyron]

Well, to begin with, a fury convertible is a hell of a lot more then just 4-5 Grand, with the way the Mopar bubble is going, they are fetching a hell of a lot more money. Where as a 318 may not be a great motor in a C body, a 383 or 440 Fury, Polara, Newport, is a nice solid combo to start with.

A 318 is not just a truck motor, it was extremely common in all the base model cars and to be honest, though a 360 is a torque motor, <not introduced until 71 if I’m not mistaken> a 318 can turn lots more power with a cam and some head work. The 360’s where a low compression motor, and turned into a smogger motor real fast. A 318 and 360 are also a lot more plentiful; however, again, I agree that a 383 or 440 is a better build for that type of car.

The Dart, Duster, Demon, A bodies are also starting to see there own in value and great for a budget build. But is also becoming a lot harder to find, I’ve seen a solid Dart for for more then a Grand with a slant 6 in it. And Yes, the aftermarket is crazy expensive for our old Mopars. There are still major Parts that are not made for my Charger, let alone a Fury or Dart.

With the Satellite’s (Yes, they are expensive, people are cloneing these), GTX, Chargers, Roadrunners becoming so ridiculously priced, these Fury’s and Darts and becoming a lot more expensive and harder to find as well.

I agree that because the car is a 4 door, it’s not worth the money with a 318. The small block to a big block conversion is expensive; you’ll find a buildable CORE of a 440 for about the same price as that whole car, hold out, but do not overlook the 2 door versions of these cars.

I ignored the 302 statement. I figured it was a mistake

[2fast4u]

Originally Posted by Khyron

this thread makes me laugh. The more I read stuff like this.... the more I know I'm on the wrong board here.

I PMed you Mikehazzard.

Main lesson in life I learned... ya cant polish a turd. Not everything made in yesteryears is worth keeping. My cutlass was a ton of fun, I learned a lot, and i dont regret spending twice what the car was worth, but at least it was a small block olds, ran 13s and was frequently mistaken for a 442... a 4 door fury isnt mistaken for much of anything. If you plan on keeping it forever then go ahead buy it, fix it up, and enjoy. I've seen a couple of them around here by the stewarts and Eckerd on rt 7, and at the Honda motorcycle dealer so there might be someone in the area who knows more.