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Old 03-18-2007, 02:02 PM
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So given this so-called correction, does that mean Justin made in the upper 400's for whp?
no his numbers take into account the correction factor already.. the dyno read 234hp and 256 tq for him on 31psi with meth.
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Ahhh. Because you had 9.X AFR? I made no reference to the bearings being damaged by boost. Your oil is probably completely f'ed and I'd be worried about the bearings given that AFR.

BTW, your #s are typoed in your sig...
i change my oil every 2500-3000 miles using full synthetic and it uses about 1/2-1 quart every 1500 miles... with no leaks.
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no his numbers take into account the correction factor already.. the dyno read 234hp and 256 tq for him
Blah. This thread is bullshit to be honest but whatever.

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i change my oil every 2500-300 miles using full synthetic and it uses about 1/2-1 quart every 1500 miles... with no leaks.
You're kidding right?
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what the hell does the dyno read that low? stock 9's have dyno 260awhp..ill make sure to stay away from there
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Blah. This thread is bullshit to be honest but whatever.



You're kidding right?
how is it bullshit shawn? that we went to an INSANELY low reading dyno to get tuned by a very good and respected tuner and we found issues with both of our cars? i GUARANTEE if you put ur 3kgt on the rollers there you would have been lucky to hit 425whp... does that mean you only make that much.. no.. proof is in the trap speeds. and on my car using oil.. no im not kidding. it uses a half to a full quart every 1500 miles or so. subaru engines are noted for using oil.. i have NO leaks. so think what you will but theres something fucked with justins MBC and i got a boost leak somewhere.
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how can you accept that as fact and put them in your sig as your actual power.
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how is it bullshit shawn? that we went to an INSANELY low reading dyno to get tuned by a very good and respected tuner and we found issues with both of our cars? i GUARANTEE if you put ur 3kgt on the rollers there you would have been lucky to hit 425whp... does that mean you only make that much.. no.. proof is in the trap speeds. and on my car using oil.. no im not kidding. it uses a half to a full quart every 1500 miles or so. subaru engines are noted for using oil.. i have NO leaks. so think what you will but theres something fucked with justins MBC and i got a boost leak somewhere.
I will make this as simple as possible.

1) Your sig is a fucking lie. Period. Similiar to how you lied before, your car didn't make those #s. Sorry, lies really annoy me.
2) Dyno correction #? Please. You make what you make.
3) Yes, you went to a lower reading dyno. It does not explain your car's #s given your running more boost from factory, supposedly some ECU flash (that is probably suspect given your AFR), and your catback, intake, etc... Either your car made that power or that dyno and/or operator have some SERIOUS problems. Dynos should be used as a tool for TUNING. If your going to get #s, they should at least be somewhat accurate.
4) I WISH your car had oil leaks so you would have an excuse to replace the vicosity destroyed, gas filled oil that you currently have in there right now from that disgusting AFR that could have caused BEARING damage (Read: Not turbo bearings!)

Argh. Sorry for the rant. I like ya man just have my own pet peeves.

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Post up your plots, guys.
What's a stock STi and stock Evo 9 make on that dyno?
Without knowing that, we don't know what you've gained.
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I will make this as simple as possible.

1) Your sig is a fucking lie. Period. Similiar to how you lied before, your car didn't make those #s. Sorry, lies really annoy me.
2) Dyno correction #? Please. You make what you make.
3) Yes, you went to a lower reading dyno. It does not explain your car's #s given your running more boost from factory, supposedly some ECU flash (that is probably suspect given your AFR), and your catback, intake, etc... Either your car made that power or that dyno and/or operator have some SERIOUS problems. Dynos should be used as a tool for TUNING. If your going to get #s, they should at least be somewhat accurate.
4) I WISH your car had oil leaks so you would have an excuse to replace the vicosity destroyed, gas filled oil that you currently have in there right now from that disgusting AFR that could have caused BEARING damage (Read: Not turbo bearings!)

Argh. Sorry for the rant.

EDIT: Fixed typos.

1.)ok so a 30psi with meth evo only made 234hp....nope not buying it.
2.) see reply #1
3.) the cobb accessport tune was RICHER than the open source tune and being as cobb is a well respected way of tuning these cars (ask byron) id be willing to bet theres a boost leak.
4.) i just changed the oil 700 miles ago.
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1.)ok so a 30psi with meth evo only made 234hp....nope not buying it.
2.) see reply #1
3.) the cobb accessport tune was RICHER than the open source tune and being as cobb is a well respected way of tuning these cars (ask byron) id be willing to bet theres a boost leak.
4.) i just changed the oil 700 miles ago.
I agree, but, regardless of what another dyno says you would make, you DIDN'T make it. Next time, go to a higher reading dynapack because that dyno is fucked.

Change the oil again after you fix that tune. You're risking bearing damage.
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im fixing any/all boost leaks before it goes on another dyno, tweaking the boost response in the tune via open source (thanks justin) and then going to AL friedman of dynoflash in CT for a FREE PULL to see where my afr's are.
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im fixing any/all boost leaks before it goes on another dyno, tweaking the boost response in the tune via open source (thanks justin) and then going to www.theshop.com for a FREE pull from AL friedman of dynoflash to see where my afr's are.
Why not buy a WB02?
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please change your signature. the sheet of paper didnt say that.
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Post up your plots, guys.
What's a stock STi and stock Evo 9 make on that dyno?
Without knowing that, we don't know what you've gained.
the STOCK sti tune for my car was 166hp and 172 tq with no management whatsoever with my mods on this particular dyno... with the opensource tune it hit 188hp and 184tq
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