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10-12-2007, 11:31 AM
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Know what's really impressive? My lifetime QB rating in Madden 08. 101.7% 3rd currently in the PS3 online nation (Minimum 50 games required to qualify for online rankings). I run this shit
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10-12-2007, 11:36 AM
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10-12-2007, 03:53 PM
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 I was referring to his completion %. Sorry for the confusion. THAT is what's misleading.
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10-12-2007, 04:51 PM
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its not really misleading though, its all it is, a stat, he completes 71% of his passes, thats not misleading its a fact.
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10-12-2007, 05:16 PM
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10-12-2007, 07:47 PM
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I didnt say that, hes a highly efficient passer, there offense is set up that way, it doesnt mean he throws as many TDs as brady, or as many yards as manning. It means he completes a very high percent of his passes thats all.
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10-12-2007, 07:52 PM
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it wont for long though. the problem with the jets offense is they run a 6 yard pattern EVERY FUCKING PLAY. the corners and linebackers are starting to jump the short routes which will lead to more interceptions and knocked down passes. pennington just doesnt have the arm to get it done.
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10-12-2007, 08:12 PM
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You guys wanna see a nice QB, turn on espn right now and watch Colt Brennan on Hawaii, the guy is awesome, will prolly break all of the major NCAA passing records before hes done. I dont think hell be good in the NFL though. I think hell be another Klingler, Ware, amazing #s in college, poo poo in the NFL
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10-12-2007, 11:46 PM
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He has no arm strength so the D won't respect and start doing as you described above. The team sucks and is losing late in the game so the open swing passes/flat passes/short passes are open. The offense is geared around that short pass. All leads to a mediocre QB with a HIGH % rating like much much better QBs.
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10-13-2007, 04:24 AM
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yeah, he did go 10-6 last year and go to the playoffs though. And it was all him because they ha dno running game last year, Chad wasnt make the big mistake then like he is now and its killing them He usually wins, but they need to give Clements a try if they lose this week, they have nothing to lose
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10-13-2007, 09:52 AM
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Pennington has proven that when he's healthy, he's a winner. The Jets problems don't stem from offense (at least not the passing game), they stem from defense. They can't stop anybody. On offense, Thomas Jones hasn't been able to find ANY room...as their line is depleted and has missed a lot of assignments. I think Chad will be fine and there's no reason for all the Clemens talk. Did you see the terrible decision making he made when he was in when Chad was hurt? Doesn't matter how good your arm is (Ryan Leaf) if you can't make good decisions. QB is 90% mental and 10% physical. I bet you can't tell me the last time an athletic QB won a super bowl. Manning...Brady...Rothlesberger...Brad Johnson (Tampa Bay)...Warner...Dilfer...Elway (good athlete, but still a pocket passer)...Favre...Aikman...All the way back to Steve Young who was still a pocket passer running the west coast offense. SMART QB's win games, you don't need to be a great athlete or have an amazing arm. You say you have to stretch the field to keep the defense honest....I disagree. Execution is the key to any offense and making the right reads. Pennington can do that. It's the receivers/backs job to make something happen once the ball is delivered to them. That's how the Jets offense is designed. I love you guys like brothers, but the way you argue some things is just ridiculous. You have to realize how the offense is designed before you start complaining.
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10-13-2007, 10:42 AM
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10-13-2007, 12:00 PM
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I know how their offense is designed, if you read my post a few pages ago I said all of that. But what Im saying is that they were in a position to at least win OR tie the game on the last drive of the game the last 2 weeks and he threw a pick on the last drive. Dont act like your the only one that knows whats going on with the jets. We all know. Chad is a problem, and his arm strength is a liability. There offense is no threat at all and no one fears them at all. They cant go deep. The Ravens game was Clemens first start and he made throws that chad could only dream of making. He would add a threat that teams know Pennington doesnt have and thats a deep threat. NO TEAM is afraid of the Jets passing game. They crowd the line with 8 guys and bury the run and then theres nothing the Jets can do but a little dinky 6 yard slant. If you watched the Giants game last week or the Bills game the week before you would have seen that. There offense is so predictable thats why hes throwing picks like crazy now. The Giants were blitzing everyone and he didnt even have the arm strength to get the ball out to the flats before Aaron Ross got there, or in the Bills game Terence Mcghee. I dont know how you can say his arm strength isnt a factor, unless your the only one in the world who doesnt think thats the problem. Theres no reason to make a post saying the opposite of what everyone sees and says just to be different and act like you have more football knowledge than everyone else.
How many of those guys that you listed as Super Bowl QBs didnt have arms? I never said they needed someone athletic at the Qb position so I dont know where you got that from. I said they need someone that can throw the ball with velocity to add a threat to their offense. Idk where you got that from, no one said anything about athletic QBs in any post. We all know what it takes to win the Super Bowl and sometimes a good Qb isnt even it so why does that matter. That fact of the matter is what i posted above. Chad is throwing away games and there offense is no threat at all. When the Giants who have a average-below average secondary can line up 8 in the box and blitz everyone and still manage 3 picks then that right there is tellin ya something. They are way to predictable. Its run, run 6yd slant. 6yd slant, run 6yd slant. The only reason they were even in the Giants game was because of a fumble returned for a TD, a special teams TD and a INT Eli threw that put them in FG position. There offense managed 7 points.
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10-13-2007, 01:05 PM
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You're saying they're predictable. That doesn't fall on Chad's shoulders, it falls on the offensive coordinator. I didn't state I'm the only one that knows football, I just believe sometimes things are said just for the sake of argument instead of actually making a point based on factual knowledge. Too little research is done and too much talking. If plays are predictable, its up to the coordinator to mix up the calling, use screens against the blitz...draws...to keep the defense off balance so your offense can be effective. The Jets have made a living on the "rinky dink" passes of Pennington for the past few seasons and have played above expectations. You're just one of the bandwagoners that likes to jump on someone if they have a few passes picked or have problems (unless their name is Eli Manning, then you're okay). I try to defend the players when they're the hotbed of undeserved scrutiny. Also, Walt, as you so often point out...ESPN and others are often just looking for hot stories...NY being a big market...Pennington and the Jets losing...its an easy QB controversy even though Chad has been productive throughout his career. If anyone should be on the hot seat, it's the offensive coordinator if you're calling their offense "predictable". Look at what Philly does. EVERYONE knows the Eagles are NOT going to run the ball, same with the Lions this season. But, good offensive execution and play calling still gains yards and scores points. Basing it entirely on the QB in some cases is BS. Such as this one. Other times, i.e. Ryan |