Official Cash for Clunkers trade-in list reveals oddities too strange to believe

[crazybrew609]

Official Cash for Clunkers trade-in list reveals oddities too strange to believe



Mixed reaction has surrounded the government's Cash for Clunkers program, but after spending around $2.8 billion, some 700,000 new vehicles have found homes. But what got traded in? We've heard some horror stories, but now that the full list of executed vehicles has been released on the Cars.gov website and we've listed some of the oddities we found while snooping around. Many are down right hard to believe, suggesting either errors in the submission process, typos in the list or even some fudging by dealers who clunked a few vehicles that weren't eligible. After the jump is a list of "Clunkers" that stood out. We can't guarantee these all really went to the crusher, but they do appear on the list.

Follow the jump for a recap of the program's eligibility requirements for trade-in vehicles and our full list. And we'd suggest having a box of tissues nearby.

[Source: Cars.gov]


We've outlined the rules of the government's Consumer Assistance to Recycle and Save Act of 2009 (CARS) program before, but we think a refresher is warranted before you browse the list below. Customers were able to bring in an old "clunker" no older than model year 1984 that got, at most, 18 mpg if they were buying a new vehicle with better mpg. That trade-in had to be in running condition and insured for at least one year prior to the trade. A rebate of $3,500-$4,500 for the trade was applied towards a new car purchase based on the difference in mpg between the old and the new vehicle. Dealers did most of the work, verifying the eligibility of the traded vehicle and seeing to it that the old cars were properly disposed of. That included disabling the engine and guaranteeing the cars were shredded before the government refunded the money.

NOTE: We find it hard to believe that many vehicles in the list below were actually destroyed through the Cash for Clunkers program, and while they may be officially on the list, their inclusion is more likely explained by an error in the submission process, typos or dealerships that managed to game the system.


Individual Vehicles

* 1987 Buick ASC GNX
* 1997 Aston Martin DB7 Volante
* 1997 Bentley Continental R
* 1989 20th Anniversary Pontiac Trans Am
* 1992 GMC Typhoon (no!)
* 1985 Audi Quattro
* 1992 BMW 850i
* 2006 Audi A4 Convertible
* 2006 Cadillac STS
* 2008 Foose F-150 (2)
* 2007 GMC Acadias (3)
* 2008 Hyundai Accent (see above)
* 2006 Nissan 350Z Roadster
* 2006 Roush Stage 3 F-150 (2)
* 2006 Toyota Corolla
* 2005 Mazda RX-8
* 2002 Kia Spectra
* 1988 Aurora Cobra kit car
* 1996 Buick Funeral Coaches/Hearses
* 1987 Duntov GT
* 1987 Excalibur Autos Phaeton
* 1990 Honda CRX (Less than 18 mpg?)
* 1985 Maserati Quattroporte
* 1999 Mercedes C43 AMG
* 1985 TVR 280i convertible


Groupings

* (18) Audi S4 and S6
* (31) AM General postal vehicles
* (24) Alfa Romeo 164
* (60) AMC Eagle
* (53) Audi A8
* (3,500+) BMWs including an M3, M5, Z3, 850i and (3) 740il Protection
* (52) Cadillac Allante
* (15) Cadillac Commercial Chassis/Limousines
* (1,007) Chevy Camaro
* (97) Chevy Corvette
* (5) AWD Chrysler 300
* (17) Chrysler Conquest
* (39) Chrysler TC by Maserati
* (3) Dodge Conquest
* (6) Dodge Daytona
* (210) Dodge Stealth
* (16) Eagle Talon
* (2) Federal Coach Lincoln Limo
* (2) Ford Aspire (didn't these things get like 30 mpg?)
* (855) Ford Crown Victoria CNG
* (917) Ford Crown Victoria Police Interceptor
* (14) USPS Ford Explorer
* (24) Ford F-150 SVT Lightning
* (1,611) Ford Mustang (so Mustang beats Camaro here)
* (107) Ford Taurus SHO (don't tell Neff)
* (15) Isuzu Vehicross
* (1,047) Jaguars including (9) XJR, (2) XK8 and (96) XJS
* (3) Laforza SUV
* (6) Maseratis including a Biturbo and the 1985 Quattroporte
* (373) Mazda RX-7
* (5,000+) Mercedes-Benz including (142) SL, (3) S600, a 1994 E500, a 1992 500E, 1995 C36 and 1999 C43
* (26) Merkur Scorpio and (21) XR4Ti
* (187) Mitsubishi 3000GT
* (3) Mitsubishi Eclipse and (4) Starion
* (2) 1984 Nissan 200SX, (2) 1994 240SX and (381) 300ZX
* (1,935) Oldsmobile Aurora
* (22) Peugeot
* (87) Pontiac Aztek (more please), (61) Fiero and (569) Firebird/Trans Am/Formula
* (6) Porsche 928 including (2) S4
* (6) Porsche 944
* (597) Saab
* (3) Saturn
* (20) Sterling
* (173) Subaru including (123) SVX
* (327) Toyota Supra, including (4) final generation

[Cavi Mike]

A kid on NYSpeed traded in a Jeep and he can't find it on the list. Either that list is incomplete(doubtful) or it's been tampered with(my choice)

[crazybrew609]

or you have no clue what your talking about and the dealership is still trying to get it passed thru the system


you have NO IDEA how hard it is to get these deals paid.. we just got the 10 cars we sold out of our one building paid on monday

[Baldturbofreak]

If that is a real GNX grand national (one of not very many) the person who turned it in should immediatly fucking hang themselves. I'll fucking tie the noose for them so they die of asphixiation and not a broken spinal cord.

[Cavi Mike]

Originally Posted by crazybrew609

or you have no clue what your talking about and the dealership is still trying to get it passed thru the system


you have NO IDEA how hard it is to get these deals paid.. we just got the 10 cars we sold out of our one building paid on monday

I know what I read and this is what I read:

"We've heard some horror stories, but now that the full list of executed vehicles has been released on the Cars.gov website"

And like I give a shit anyways.

[Audiochef]

idk its pretty hard to believe someone tradded in that gnx thats worth 50-70k in mint condition for 4500 dollers torward a new car. shit even a regular grand national brings more then 4500 in bad shape...

[SRS BZNS]

Originally Posted by Audiochef

idk its pretty hard to believe someone tradded in that gnx thats worth 50-70k in mint condition for 4500 dollers torward a new car. shit even a regular grand national brings more then 4500 in bad shape...

Yeah this is what I don't understand. IF the cars have to be insured and in running order 90% of those cars are worth so much more than $4500 to even the dealership. I mean rather than destroying the damn car the dealership could sell them and get more money out of them

[mikecentola]

There is little doubt that Cash for Clunkers gave auto sales a big boost in late July and most of August, but there has been considerable debate as to how much help taxpayers' $3 billion provided. Customers who purchased a new car or truck were rewarded in many ways, especially when you consider the U.S. government paid out a median price of about $4,000 per clunker. Those customers are also saving at the pump, as each car turned in was 4-10 mpg better than the vehicle it replaced. Dealers sold more cars. States received more tax dollars. So the program was a success, right?

If you believe the statistical analysis of Edmunds, perhaps the program wasn't so terrific after all. The industry research juggernaut claims that of the 690,000 vehicles sold under the program, only 125,000 of those sales went to people who weren't going to purchase a new car in 2009. The result, says Edmunds, is that the $3 billion spent for C4C ended up spurring only 125,000 sales at a cost of $24,000 per vehicle. Further, Edmunds claims that October's sales would have ramped up even more than what current projections indicate.

There doesn't seem to be too many industry experts who disagree with Edmunds' assessment that the Clunkers program only generated 125,000 additional sales, but C4C wasn't just about selling cars and trucks. Ford industry guru George Pipas told CNN Money that the Blue Oval feels the program was a success, adding "The whole purpose of the program was to provide some kind of catalyst to kick-start the economy, and by all accounts the extra production that was added this year was a boost to the economy."

While we're not entirely sure C4C was a great idea, it's hard to argue that it spurred desperately needed economic activity. Dealers were able to pay their staffs, OEMs ramped up production at plants to keep up with new demand, beneficiaries of C4C were able to upgrade their rides, and some of the road's biggest eyesores were given a sodium silicate death sentence – surely that's worth something.

Source: http://www.autoblog.com/2009/10/29/e...er-car-not-4k/