inspection sticker

[1320ride]

the most recent 2 model year vehicles (in this case 06-07) will pass inspection even if it has a check engine light on as it is only required to pass a safety check.. anything older than that receives a SAFETY/EMISSIONS inspection where the vehicle is plugged into the nys inspection machine provided by dmv that reads the readiness monitors in the pcm. if infact there is a SES light on the vehicle automatically fails. remedy the SES light, drive the vehicle for a while can range by mileage OR key cycles and then REinspect the car and see if the readiness monitors have passed.. thats the deal.. otherwise.. no sticker.

[GeneralPatton]

I got a question..

You think a hi-flow cat will let me pass inspection? Right now I'm running headers w/ no cat.

[1320ride]

there needs to be a catalytic converter in place to pass the VISUAL safety portion of the inspection. failure to have a cat in place on any vehicle 1973 and newer is automatic failure as well. a high flow cat can be used as i had one on my focus and it passed just fine.

[mikecentola]

Originally Posted by blackparis

If the Light is visible (on) the technichian is supposed to fail it... By recording it is on...

Erasing the codes will give a P1000 and the inspection machine fails the car... It normally takes a 40mile drive to reset all the monitors on most cars...

It is true the technician is supposed to fail it if the light is on, but thats besides the point. 40 miles is arbitrary. I'm pretty sure you made that number up because there is no set number to reset the readiness monitors

Originally Posted by Shawn96VR-4

You sure about this? I am almost positive that even the OBDI cars would be iunstructed to FAIL if they had a CEL.

Originally Posted by 1320ride

the most recent 2 model year vehicles (in this case 06-07) will pass inspection even if it has a check engine light on as it is only required to pass a safety check.. anything older than that receives a SAFETY/EMISSIONS inspection where the vehicle is plugged into the nys inspection machine provided by dmv that reads the readiness monitors in the pcm. if infact there is a SES light on the vehicle automatically fails. remedy the SES light, drive the vehicle for a while can range by mileage OR key cycles and then REinspect the car and see if the readiness monitors have passed.. thats the deal.. otherwise.. no sticker.

Safety inspection doesn't require it to be hooked up to the machine, so technically it wouldn't matter, but I would wager a guess that a place wouldn't pass the car if the tech saw the check engine light on anyways.

Also, I have a mechanic friend locally who works at a shop and he proved to me that some cars can pass with the light on (even though he is not supposed to let it pass) but it has to do with what the light is on for. I think there are a very small number of CEL's that can still pass through the system.

Not all readiness monitors have to be ready also.

Oh and I worked on the team that designed and distributed the inspection systems when they were first rolled out back in september '04

[Shawn96VR-4]

Originally Posted by mikecentola

It is true the technician is supposed to fail it if the light is on, but thats besides the point. 40 miles is arbitrary. I'm pretty sure you made that number up because there is no set number to reset the readiness monitors

Correct. The ECU determines that via the drive cycle. However, for OBDII, NYS OBDII connector determines pass/fail regarding the ECU. I am not sure if the technician can OVERRIDE that?

Originally Posted by mikecentola

Also, I have a mechanic friend locally who works at a shop and he proved to me that some cars can pass with the light on (even though he is not supposed to let it pass) but it has to do with what the light is on for. I think there are a very small number of CEL's that can still pass through the system.

I've NEVER heard that. I was told/shown it's the NYC connector that determines that.

Originally Posted by mikecentola

Not all readiness monitors have to be ready also.

Correct. 6 out of 8 must be on.

[mikecentola]

Originally Posted by Shawn96VR-4

Correct. The ECU determines that via the drive cycle. However, for OBDII, NYS OBDII connector determines pass/fail regarding the ECU. I am not sure if the technician can OVERRIDE that?

I'm pretty sure they can't override it. It's a pretty "dumb" system, where the tech has minimal control over the obdII portion.

Originally Posted by Shawn96VR-4

I've NEVER heard that. I was told/shown it's the NYC connector that determines that.

I'll ask him again next time I talk to him. Maybe I misheard what he said, when he was telling me about the test he did or whatever.

Originally Posted by Shawn96VR-4

Correct. 6 out of 8 must be on.

Yeah I forgot what the exact number was haha. You're such a nerd Shawn.

[19Cutlass94]

OBDI is saftey and visual inspection of emissions. If the SES light is on for any car it will fail, reguardless. You have to get the code scanned and fix the problem. Most of the time to reset the monitors, its dependant on the number of start ups, (key turns).

[1320ride]

Originally Posted by 19Cutlass94

OBDI is saftey and visual inspection of emissions. If the SES light is on for any car it will fail, reguardless. You have to get the code scanned and fix the problem. Most of the time to reset the monitors, its dependant on the number of start ups, (key turns).

not true. IT DOES NOT MATTER IF THE LIGHT IS ON FOR A VEHICLE LESS THAN 1 MODEL YEAR OLD!!!!! if it is only there for a safety inspection the inspecting technician CANNOT legally fail it.matter of fact... ill provide a link to the nys dmv site that will explain that certain vehicles are EXEMPT from the emissions testing.. which encompasses the presence of the SES light... heres your link. New York Smog Checks - Emissions Regulations, NY Smog Testing Stations - DMV.ORG

[1320ride]

NYS DMV - Vehicle Safety, Inspection, Repairs and Dealers
actually this page might even be better.

[blackparis]

Originally Posted by mikecentola

It is true the technician is supposed to fail it if the light is on, but thats besides the point. 40 miles is arbitrary. I'm pretty sure you made that number up because there is no set number to reset the readiness monitors

I did make it up, as thats how far I drive them to reset the monitors... I've tried 35miles and they weren't reset...

And if you notice I did say "NORMALLY"... meaning not always the case, but on normal circumstances, it takes 40+ miles of mixed driving, without turning the car off...

[JiM P 2001]

my car takes 55 miles to reset monitors...