New York Giants

[waltbabyluv]

Originally Posted by xceebeex

I am not saying that the Giants D was stellar, but their overall team was much better than the Colts when Peyton came into the picture.

In his first 3 years Peyton had Faulk, then James. At reciever he had Harrison, Wayne, Pathon. Both Mannings had about equal talent on offense. Of course Eli doesnt put up numbers like Peyton, he doesnt play in a dome, and doesnt have the weapons Peyton has had the last few years but all IM saying is the Qb position is judged by winning and at this point in his career Eli has the same record as THE GREAT Peyton did and I never remember Peyton being ripped in the media like Eli does, because he plays in Indy.

[xceebeex]

Originally Posted by waltbabyluv

In his first 3 years Peyton had Faulk, then James. At reciever he had Harrison, Wayne, Pathon. Both Mannings had about equal talent on offense. Of course Eli doesnt put up numbers like Peyton, he doesnt play in a dome, and doesnt have the weapons Peyton has had the last few years but all IM saying is the Qb position is judged by winning and at this point in his career Eli has the same record as THE GREAT Peyton did and I never remember Peyton being ripped in the media like Eli does, because he plays in Indy.

I see what you are saying and I agree for the most part, but lets through something else out there....one is AFC, the other is NFC and we all know which is the tougher conference....

[waltbabyluv]

Originally Posted by xceebeex

I see what you are saying and I agree for the most part, but lets through something else out there....one is AFC, the other is NFC and we all know which is the tougher conference....

The 2 best teams are in the AFC IMO yes. But so are the worst 3 teams in the Raider, Jets, and Dolphins

[Toneman14]

Also Eli is playing in Peyton's shadow...who did Peyton have to live up to? His dad? that was decades ago and when you have two brother playing the same position at the same time they are obviously going to be compared and scrutinized much more fiercely than if they were playing at different times. Im confident Eli will be a very good quarterback in the NFL. He's already grown leaps and bounds from when he first entered the league.

[Shawn96VR-4]

Originally Posted by Toneman14

Also Eli is playing in Peyton's shadow...who did Peyton have to live up to? His dad? that was decades ago and when you have two brother playing the same position at the same time they are obviously going to be compared and scrutinized much more fiercely than if they were playing at different times. Im confident Eli will be a very good quarterback in the NFL. He's already grown leaps and bounds from when he first entered the league.

He is in a shitty position but that's the type of responsibilty that comes from the QB position. Say what you want about Eli but he doesn't do those dumb ass commericials.

[waltbabyluv]

Originally Posted by Toneman14

Also Eli is playing in Peyton's shadow...who did Peyton have to live up to? His dad? that was decades ago and when you have two brother playing the same position at the same time they are obviously going to be compared and scrutinized much more fiercely than if they were playing at different times. Im confident Eli will be a very good quarterback in the NFL. He's already grown leaps and bounds from when he first entered the league.

Yeah the whole comparison thing is stupid. I know they are borthers but they are still different people. And Archie was a terrible nfl qb

[Toneman14]

well he wasn't terrible he just played for a terrible team. Eli Manning wouldnt get half the attention if Peyton wasnt so good. But he's got his bad days too. Who remembers Peyton's game against San Diego last week, 6 INT's setting a franchise record was it? If Eli had a game like that he might get stoned to death at the Meadowlands. Peyton's got a few records and a ring so people dont get that upset over Peyton's rough days. NY is a tougher sports town than Indy too...

[waltbabyluv]

Originally Posted by Toneman14

well he wasn't terrible he just played for a terrible team. Eli Manning wouldnt get half the attention if Peyton wasnt so good. But he's got his bad days too. Who remembers Peyton's game against San Diego last week, 6 INT's setting a franchise record was it? If Eli had a game like that he might get stoned to death at the Meadowlands. Peyton's got a few records and a ring so people dont get that upset over Peyton's rough days. NY is a tougher sports town than Indy too...

Yeah thats waht im sayin. When Peyton started his career out 27-22 there wasnt talk about him being replaced the next year like there is now, its crazy.

[waltbabyluv]

Giants can put a little distance between themselves and the other wild card contenders. I dont think today will be easy though with there top 2 RBs though. The Vikings can be thrown on though sel well see. LETS GO!!!!

[JVG Motorsports]

Looks like the Giants team that started if the season. ROFL at walts comment the vikings can be thrown on more like thrown too. No distance should be had today in favor of the Giants.

[waltbabyluv]

Originally Posted by JVG Motorsports

Looks like the Giants team that started if the season. ROFL at walts comment the vikings can be thrown on more like thrown too. No distance should be had today in favor of the Giants.

They have the worst pass defense in the NFL, therefore they can be thrown on. Giants arent executing, and the vikings have made a couple nice plays.

[Shawn96VR-4]

Eli is playing about the worst I have ever seen.

[waltbabyluv]

Originally Posted by Shawn96VR-4

Eli is playing about the worst I have ever seen.

I agree with you this time.............terrible

[xceebeex]

Can't wait to hear the excuses for getting blown out by Minnesota. I don't think they even had Peterson either.