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Old 11-30-2007, 07:55 AM
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If Favre really did separate his shoulder, not in the way Eli did but really did it hell miss some starts. Hopefully hes ok
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Old 11-30-2007, 09:47 AM
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Cowboys knock out Favre, hold off Packers - NFL - MSNBC.com

"Rodgers, who spent the week pretending he was Romo in Green Bay practices, provided the kind of rally Favre usually specializes in, even throwing the first touchdown pass of his three-year career. But he’s no Brett Favre, so this comeback came up short."

Couldn't have said it better myself. Who knows what would have happened if Favre was healthy enough to stay in. Congrats to the Boys, they are truly a force to be reckoned with.
I agree. I am surprised Walt made that post. I am not sure what would have happened nor does anyone else but this game really didn't say much when the team leader was injured. Yes, we all know Dallas won but it didn't really answer the question.
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Old 11-30-2007, 09:53 AM
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I agree. I am surprised Walt made that post. I am not sure what would have happened nor does anyone else but this game really didn't say much when the team leader was injured. Yes, we all know Dallas won but it didn't really answer the question.
Yup, I agree. Indy's "excuse" is not the same because Harrison is not the team leader. If Manning was out when the played the Pats, I am sure there would be the same skepticism on who is better.

Obviously Dallas won and thats all that ultimately matters, but it doesn't really answer who is the better team. Green Bay stayed in the game VERY well for not having their leader.
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Old 11-30-2007, 10:11 AM
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Yup, I agree. Indy's "excuse" is not the same because Harrison is not the team leader. If Manning was out when the played the Pats, I am sure there would be the same skepticism on who is better.

Obviously Dallas won and thats all that ultimately matters, but it doesn't really answer who is the better team. Green Bay stayed in the game VERY well for not having their leader.
Exactly what I feel.
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well, I felt Dallas was the better team going in to the game, and I still do
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Old 11-30-2007, 01:09 PM
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I'll agree with that but wrestle because acted like this game really proved something. It didn't regardless of the W.
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my point was that Dallas did better offensively an defensively when Favre was on the field then when rogers was on. Green bay got themselves caught up in the "hyped up" media that the dallas secondary was weak an that it could be exploited, they went for it an thats why he threw 2 INT's in less then 2 quarters an only got like 56 yds passing. Even (here comes the big word) IF Favre was in the game, they prolly would have went back to the short game like rogers did, but what IF T.O. didnt juggle a perfect TD pass an give that up for an INT? You can go either way with "what ifs" no matter what game you watch. Injuries are part of the sport, I mean what if we had terry glenn out there all season? That is just another HUGE WR Dallas is missing. Demarcus Ware would have still brought the heat an terrance newman would have still played his game, Al harris didnt do his job of shutting down T.O. like everyone thought he would could or should have, an that wouldnt have changed either way. I think Green bay stopped about 3 of our drives total, Dallas played a heck of a game an rogers stepped up to the plate extremely well for not having alot of experience although hes been in the NFL for 3 years.
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my point was that Dallas did better offensively an defensively when Favre was on the field then when rogers was on.
What kind of point is that? So what if Favre played like shit for a couple of series... he is a future hall of famer know for his resilience. He could throw 3 straight INTs then come back and throw 3 straight TD. You never know. You can't compare his pre injury stats and assume it would have been like that the rest of the game.

And wtf does Favre being in or out have to do with the Dallas Offense?
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Don't take it personal but you have no clue when it comes to discussing football. I understand opinions but your logic is ridiculous.

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my point was that Dallas did better offensively an defensively when Favre was on the field then when rogers was on.
1). Favre > Rodgers. Favre is known for his comebacks.
2) You cannot predict the future. Favre could have come back and thrown 10 INTs or 10TDs. Who knows? The best player and the captain of that team, HOF'er, and QB missed the majority of the game including the final 7 minutes where the game was basically decided.

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Green bay got themselves caught up in the "hyped up" media that the dallas secondary was weak an that it could be exploited, they went for it an thats why he threw 2 INT's in less then 2 quarters an only got like 56 yds passing.
Hyped up? Favre's backup QB went 18/26 with 1 TD and 0 INT in a game where they were behind all game and with a team that has been criticized for having no running game. Did Dallas think they were going to run dives? C'mon. Oh, by the way, the Packers put up 12X rushing yards. The fucking Packers!

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Even (here comes the big word) IF Favre was in the game, they prolly would have went back to the short game like rogers did, but what IF T.O. didnt juggle a perfect TD pass an give that up for an INT? You can go either way with "what ifs" no matter what game you watch.
Agreed. No one is saying that Packers would have won. I am just saying that the game didn't decide the better team. I'll even say I THINK Dallas is better. But your "End Of Story" comment was ridiculous. The story hasn't ended.

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Injuries are part of the sport, I mean what if we had terry glenn out there all season? That is just another HUGE WR Dallas is missing.
He is gone the entire season and you are comparing Terry Glenn with a HOF QB? C'mon. That's absurd. Your argument has validity if Packers had another QB named Dan Marino.

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Al harris didnt do his job of shutting down T.O. like everyone thought he would could or should have, an that wouldnt have changed either way.
How many yards did TO have in the second half? Curiosity? I'll tell you if you don't know.
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Old 11-30-2007, 08:59 PM
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The media doesnt hype up Dallas defense sucking, they do it well themselves, there 20th in pass defense, they can be thrown on
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They have had injuries in the secondary and other positions on defense. Newman wasnt 100% for the beginning half of the season, Henry still isnt 100%, they stupidly released aaron glen havent yet figured out why they did that and Reeves, henrys replacement, is well undersized for his position and the pass defense has been the best. But regardless they are 11-1 and win the games they need to win. Doesnt matter how they got there and i dont really care. They won all 11 fair and square. No teams perfect.
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They have had injuries in the secondary and other positions on defense. Newman wasnt 100% for the beginning half of the season, Henry still isnt 100%, they stupidly released aaron glen havent yet figured out why they did that and Reeves, henrys replacement, is well undersized for his position and the pass defense has been the best. But regardless they are 11-1 and win the games they need to win. Doesnt matter how they got there and i dont really care. They won all 11 fair and square. No teams perfect.
I would say the Patriots are perfect...as they have yet to lose a game.
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