MLBs Steroid List released (Mitchell Report)

waltbabyluv · #1 (**permalink**) 12-13-2007, 03:12 PM

You guys see this? They finally released the Mitchell report today. Theres quite a few big names on this list. Roger Clemens, Andy Pettite, Miguel Tejada were the biggest names. I recognized every single guy on the list. There was some big name players, im trying to find the whole list. It just came out. This all came out of one investigation. I bet 80% of baseball is either on roids or HGH. Im glad im not that big of a baseball fan anyways. This is just getting embarrasing.

waltbabyluv · #2 (**permalink**) 12-13-2007, 03:18 PM

heres the list

1.Jason Giambi
2.Jeremy Giambi
3. Gary Sheffield
4. Benito Santiago
5.Lenny Dykstra
6.Larry Bigbie
7.David Segui
8.Jack Cust
9.Todd Hundley
10.Matt Franco
11.Rondell White
12.Roger Clemens
13.Andy Pettitte
14.Greg Zaun
15. Glenallen Hill
16.Mo Vaughn
17.Ron Villone
18. Todd Williams
19.Todd Pratt
20.Mike Lansing
21.Jason Christiansen
22.Steven Randolph
23.Jerry Hairston Jr.
24.Paul Lo Duca
25. Larry Bigbie
26. Tim Laker
27.Josias Manzanillo
28.Mark Carreon
29. Hal Morris
30.F.P. Santangelo
31. Denny Neagle
32.Ryan Franklin
33. Chris Donnels
34.Phil Hiatt
35.Kevin Young
36. Cody McKay
37.Kent Mercker
38.Adam Piatt
39.Stephen Randolph
40.Adam Riggs
41.Bart Miadich
42.Fernando Vina
43. Eric Gagne
44.Mike Bell
45.Matt Herges
46.Gary Bennett, Jr.
47.Jim Parque
48.Brendan Donnelly
49.Chad Allen
50.Jeff Williams
51.Howie Clark
52. Nook Logan
53. Randy Velarde
54. Kevin Brown
55. Daniel Naulty
56. Rick Ankiel
57. David Bell
58. Paul Byrd
59. Jose Canseco
60.Jay Gibbons
61.Troy Glaus
62.Jason Grimsley
63. Jose Guillen
64. Darren Holmes
65.Gary Matthews, Jr.
66. Scott Schoeneweis
67. Ismael Valdez
68. Matt Williams
69. Chuck Knoblauch
70. Miguel Tejada
71. Mike Stanton
72. Brian Roberts
73. David Justice
74. John Rocker
75. Steve Woodard
76. Marvin Benard
77. Barry Bonds
78. Bobby Estalella
79. Alex Cabrera
80. Ricky Bones
81. Mark McGwire
82. Rafael Palmeiro

He has evidence of all these people enclosed in his 400 plus page report. The details of Clemens steroid use are very disturbing IMO.Alot of Mets and Yankees but 2 of the main guys giving up all the info and evidence were trainers of the mets and yankees. Crazy

usmc2801 · #3 (**permalink**) 12-13-2007, 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by waltbabyluv

I bet 80% of baseball is either on roids or HGH. Im glad im not that big of a baseball fan anyways. This is just getting embarrasing.

So your glad your not that big of a baseball fan b/c they do steroids? and what you don't think any other sport has a steroid problem...I'm willing to bet football, which I know you love has a higher amount of steroid users then baseball.

Celtic1982citleC · #4 (**permalink**) 12-13-2007, 06:27 PM

Football actually has very strick STEROID policies. "Natural" supplements are allowed, but regulated. NFL also has random drug testing. Look at what happened to Shawn Merriman of the Chargers...

Baseball has had a problem for years, and the list isn't that disturbing to me. If you look at the number of players it's very small. Maybe 1-2% of players in the MLB that have been linked. Problematic? I guess. Outrageous? Not really considering the availability. As the Mitchell report said, everyone was to blame. Not just the players...the MLBPA, the League, the Commish., everyone. Now they'll have better policies in place to regulate things.

The NFL is the best run sports organization in the world, period. Nothing else can compare to how its run from top to bottom. It's unbelievable.

waltbabyluv · #5 (**permalink**) 12-13-2007, 10:04 PM

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Originally Posted by usmc2801

So your glad your not that big of a baseball fan b/c they do steroids? and what you don't think any other sport has a steroid problem...I'm willing to bet football, which I know you love has a higher amount of steroid users then baseball.

how much money you wanna put on that? The NFL doesnt have a steroid problem.

usmc2801 · #6 (**permalink**) 12-13-2007, 10:21 PM

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Originally Posted by waltbabyluv

how much money you wanna put on that? The NFL doesnt have a steroid problem.

I forgot walt knows everything....so b/c the media claims the NFL has everything under control you still think the NFL is clean of steroids??? thats hilarious...or is it b/c the papers say that random drug testing proves that no one does steroids??? where is the actual proof and I don't mean show me a fucking article that says "steroids aren't a problem in the NFL...for example amazing how Brett Farve is having a career year and he should be getting ready to retire...or maybe explain my favorite phenomenon of 300+ pound lineman running 4.8 40's b/c that is just amazing. Sports are just like politics the majority of the shit you hear is all BULLSHIT. Anyone to say otherwise is to blind to realize that. Bottom line is every single major sport IE baseball, football, basketball has a steroid issue in this generation.

and thats my

waltbabyluv · #7 (**permalink**) 12-13-2007, 10:28 PM

your right, the NFL does have a steroid problem, your just the only one that knows about it. Congratulations on breaking the story.

usmc2801 · #8 (**permalink**) 12-13-2007, 10:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Celtic1982citleC

Football actually has very strick STEROID policies. "Natural" supplements are allowed, but regulated. NFL also has random drug testing. Look at what happened to Shawn Merriman of the Chargers...

Baseball has had a problem for years, and the list isn't that disturbing to me. If you look at the number of players it's very small. Maybe 1-2% of players in the MLB that have been linked. Problematic? I guess. Outrageous? Not really considering the availability. As the Mitchell report said, everyone was to blame. Not just the players...the MLBPA, the League, the Commish., everyone. Now they'll have better policies in place to regulate things.

The NFL is the best run sports organization in the world, period. Nothing else can compare to how its run from top to bottom. It's unbelievable.

Baseball now has a very strict steroid policy, they have since the beginning of the Bonds issue...but whats funny is about 98% of the names on that list didn't fail a drug test, instead got caught in other ways such as association, or got ratted out...a few of them even passed there test for steroids...so that doesn't mean anything just cuz they have a strict policy doesn't mean there isn't a lot of players taking steroids, there just not getting caught. Thats like saying...well bars in downtown Albany have strict policies on underage drinking, now are you going to tell me that everyone out in those bars is really of age?

usmc2801 · #9 (**permalink**) 12-13-2007, 10:34 PM

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Originally Posted by waltbabyluv

your right, the NFL does have a steroid problem, your just the only one that knows about it. Congratulations on breaking the story.

wow that was good evidence to prove that the NFL doesn't have a steroid problem....damn once again...

WALT IS ALWAYS RIGHT!

waltbabyluv · #10 (**permalink**) 12-14-2007, 05:29 AM

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Originally Posted by usmc2801

Baseball now has a very strict steroid policy, they have since the beginning of the Bonds issue...but whats funny is about 98% of the names on that list didn't fail a drug test, instead got caught in other ways such as association, or got ratted out...a few of them even passed there test for steroids...so that doesn't mean anything just cuz they have a strict policy doesn't mean there isn't a lot of players taking steroids, there just not getting caught. Thats like saying...well bars in downtown Albany have strict policies on underage drinking, now are you going to tell me that everyone out in those bars is really of age?

No, it means that there mostly all using HGH, which isnt detectable through a test.

waltbabyluv · #11 (**permalink**) 12-14-2007, 05:31 AM

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Originally Posted by usmc2801

wow that was good evidence to prove that the NFL doesn't have a steroid problem....damn once again...

WALT IS ALWAYS RIGHT!

no man, I posted that you were right, your the one that knows that the nfl has a steroid problem. You should call the times, or even Roger Goodell. Im sure they would like to know the proof that you have to back up your statements.

usmc2801 · #12 (**permalink**) 12-14-2007, 06:20 AM

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Originally Posted by waltbabyluv

No, it means that there mostly all using HGH, which isnt detectable through a test.

you are incorrect for the first time in your life...HGH is not detectable in a urine test, however it is through a blood test but the problem is that in the MLB the players and owners union agreed to only use urine tests for the drug policy.

Listen I'm not one to argue or talk shit on forums b/c thats for fucking morons, all I'm saying is baseball isn't the only sport that has a huge problem when it comes to steroids or any other enhancement drugs, its just everyone seems to be getting caught now. That is all.