Sper Bowl 42 predictions

[GranMassaX]

Originally Posted by xceebeex

Eh, I still say the Giants had the better day as a whole, not Eli. I never said Brady played well, I just said he played just about as well as Manning. Manning just happened to come out the victor, primarily because of his defense IMO. Without that rush, it would have been a completely different game and if you deny that, you need to wake up.

are you kidding me? You are comparing a game by taking out components that actually happened, like the GIANTS rush, and I need to wake up? "yeah well if the GIANTS didn't get all that pressure on brady than it would have been a different game" NO SHIT!, but guess what? It did happen. The game is over, dunno how you can still throw out speculations and possibilities. Its over, wake up.


Stats were similar, they both had a turnover, but eli had 2 TDs to Brady's 1, thats a big stat. And the biggest of them all is the WIN. Did not put up shockingly high numbers by any means, but he was def the MVP of the game.

[xceebeex]

Originally Posted by GranMassaX

are you kidding me? You are comparing a game by taking out components that actually happened, like the GIANTS rush, and I need to wake up? "yeah well if the GIANTS didn't get all that pressure on brady than it would have been a different game" NO SHIT!, but guess what? I did happen. The game is over, dunno how you can still throw out speculations and possibilities. Its over, wake up.


Stats were similar, they both had a turnover, but eli had 2 TDs to Brady's 1, thats a big stat. And the biggest of them all is the WIN. Did not put up shockingly high numbers by any means, but he was def the MVP of the game.

What I am merely trying to point out, is that I don't believe Eli deserves all the credit here. IMO, the Defense was the MVP(s), not Eli manning. Too many times the QB gets all the credit. Just like if the Pats won, Brady would have been MVP, but I would have thought he did not deserve it either.

I knew this was going to inflate the heads of Giants fans. (I do admit though, they deserve a lot of credit and Eli played 100 times better than I thought he would)

[GranMassaX]

ok, well when you say it like that then it makes more sense. The D was absolutely amazing, but since not a single person on the D stuck out and since the MVP goes to one person, it had to go to the single person that had the best day and that def was Eli.

[xceebeex]

Originally Posted by GranMassaX

ok, well when you say it like that then it makes more sense. The D was absolutely amazing, but since not a single person on the D stuck out and since the MVP goes to one person, it had to go to the single person that had the best day and that def was Eli.

I think Tuck really stuck out on the D, and I would almost argue that he could have gotten it. Unfortunately defense is always overlooked and its hard to "quantify" their worth.

[Celtic1982citleC]

The D did a great job all game, but not when it mattered. It gave up the go ahead score on a LONG drive by Brady and the Pats. Manning however responded and did what none thought he could...led a game winning drive of his own leaving the Pats with 30 seconds left and only a miracles chance.

Yeah, I'd say Eli def. earned MVP honors.

[waltbabyluv]

Originally Posted by xceebeex

Eh, I still say the Giants had the better day as a whole, not Eli. I never said Brady played well, I just said he played just about as well as Manning. Manning just happened to come out the victor, primarily because of his defense IMO. Without that rush, it would have been a completely different game and if you deny that, you need to wake up.

Why are you being stupid? If "what ifs" and "if this happened" is your only defense on why Eli shouldnt have won the MVP then maybe you should movw on to another thread and stop talking about football. The defense needed to make a big stop, they didnt pull through and it was then on Elis shoulders TO WIN THE GAME! He went right down the field and won the game. Trust me your not infalting our heads, were Super Bowl Champs, everything your saying means nothing because our team is on top of the world right now.

[xceebeex]

Originally Posted by waltbabyluv

Why are you being stupid? If "what ifs" and "if this happened" is your only defense on why Eli shouldnt have won the MVP then maybe you should movw on to another thread and stop talking about football. The defense needed to make a big stop, they didnt pull through and it was then on Elis shoulders TO WIN THE GAME! He went right down the field and won the game. Trust me your not infalting our heads, were Super Bowl Champs, everything your saying means nothing because our team is on top of the world right now.

I understand that Eli had to bring them down the field to score, thats fairly obvious since most of the time its the offense that does the scoring. I just felt that other people were more deserving since they played well the whole game, not just one or two drives.

On a side note, did you guys see Shockey up in the booths? What a jerk, he should be down with the team, I don't care if he is hurt. They should not give him a ring.

[waltbabyluv]

[Shawn96VR-4]

Originally Posted by waltbabyluv

Exactly, its not throwing for 400 yards and 5 tds that makes you a good QB. A good QB IMO and a Qb that I want being the qb of my team is the guy that when he has the ball in his hands at the end of the game and needs a TD to to win he goes right down the field and does it.

I agree. This is something Eli hasn't been very strong with at times. Those clutch positions. He has turned into a clutch player and a leader like overnight. I was completely wrong unless this is a crazy fluke.

Originally Posted by xceebeex

And the two fumbles that were luckily recovered by the Giants and that penalty for punching the ball forward. I wouldn't call that mistake free football. Brady's number were just as good, he just had 1 less TD pass, but he also had 0 INT.

We were talking about Manning who played mistake free football not the Giants. Obviously, you are right on that.

Eli's INT is 100% not his fault but that's how the stats lie. Again, I've said it before, I don't use stats. I watch the game. Your stats don't show how Brady was a completely 1-sided QB who had NOTHING but screens and check down passes except the last drive. I will be honest with that.

Eli converted 3rd down passes, big pass to a rookie TE, amazing clutch throw to Tyree with the game on the line, and even did some scrambling.

I cannot imagine anyone thinking Eli didn't play better.

Please note that I didn't even bring up that our receiving corps is not as talented as NE and still Eli did better.

[waltbabyluv]

Originally Posted by Shawn96VR-4

I agree. This is something Eli hasn't been very strong with at times. Those clutch positions. He has turned into a clutch player and a leader like overnight. I was completely wrong unless this is a crazy fluke.



We were talking about Manning who played mistake free football not the Giants. Obviously, you are right on that.

Eli's INT is 100% not his fault but that's how the stats lie. Again, I've said it before, I don't use stats. I watch the game. Your stats don't show how Brady was a completely 1-sided QB who had NOTHING but screens and check down passes except the last drive. I will be honest with that.

Eli converted 3rd down passes, big pass to a rookie TE, amazing clutch throw to Tyree with the game on the line, and even did some scrambling.

I cannot imagine anyone thinking Eli didn't play better.

Please note that I didn't even bring up that our receiving corps is not as talented as NE and still Eli did better.

even if Eli is a crazy fluke. WE WON THE SUPER BOWL and im psyched! IMO flukes dont win the Super Bowl, they win wild card games or make the playoffs in crazy ways. I cant think of a fluke that has ever won a super bowl. A few have gone, but not won. There recieving corps is much better than ours. If anyone told me that David Tyree would even be in the game for one offensive snap i would have laughed in